Wednesday, July 7, 2010

Another White Knight Gets Himself Hurt

A few months ago, feminists were upset over an ABC News experiment that sought to see whether people would intervene in domestic violence cases, as it was revealed that people were more likely to help non-slutty women. What the feminists overlooked is that there are many good reasons to not intervene in a domestic violence situation. First, women commit domestic violence about as often as men (yes, "ladies," slapping your boyfriend counts as domestic violence), so if someone intervenes and helps the woman, they might actually be helping the abuser. Second, many women return to or otherwise support their abusers, as long as they possess sufficient alphaness, so intervening could be utterly fruitless.

Finally, intervening in a domestic violence incident involving strangers can be physically dangerous. You might be arrested by the police, as Rob Chilson of Trenton, NJ, was when he intervened when a man hit is ex-wife after she slapped him (apparently he wasn't bothered by her slapping her ex-husband). Or you might be beaten by the man you attempt to stop and end up hospitalized, as Matthew Leone was a few days ago. Leone is the bassist in an alternative rock band and had a Wikipedia page even before this incident. I wonder if he'll be able to continue his career missing a third of his skull.

He's a certified white knight, as his brother Nathan told the reporter:
He walked about half way there and witnessed a guy beating on his wife. Where we come from, violence against women is absolutely disgusting,
I don't have much sympathy for Leone. It's clear he was a deluded white knight who thought he was doing his chivalrous duty by saving the fair maiden from the evildoer. Instead, the woman will probably end up standing by her man and all Leone will get out of it is brain surgery.

(H/T: Vox Day)


  1. I don't like denigrating these white knights because they're almost always good people. We need people like that in society. But they're also extremely stupid, naive, and brainwashed by the feminist value system (i.e. women are more valuable than men).

    Look at the following quote:

    ""Matthew is a hero in my book. He's an angel. He put himself at great harm," said Nathan Leone, victim's brother. "

    Notice it wasn't the "abused" woman saying that.

  2. Also as Vox Day said in the link, if "violence against women is disgusting", what is violence against men?

    I never understood this phrase. Violence is bad; the evil of violence is dependent on the act and the consequences, not the gender of the victim.

  3. I agree with 1STDV, it is quite sad. I was tempted to intervene in one of these late-night scenarios when I was a young man. Knowing what I know now, when I hear or see it now, I simply think "Eh, she probably deserves it."

    Best way to respond: (yelling out the window) "STFU, you want me to call the cops?" Might at least get them to quiet down. If someone is getting stabbed, yes, call the cops. Intervene physically, hell no.

  4. I have seen several male-female altercations in the street. I always nodded politely to the man and continued on my way. I am not going to be shot, stabbed, or even so much as punched in the nose for the benefit of some stranger. I will fight to preserve the life, limb, or honor of myself or a loved one, but anyone else can damn well look out for himself or herself.

  5. "If someone is getting stabbed, yes, call the cops."

    Uh, I would think that goes without saying, you jerk.

    You better call the cops if someone is being stabbed.

  6. Morally speaking, I think if you subscribe to the view that a law is just, you have an obligation to alert the authorities when you see that law being broken.

    You can't say: "I think pot should be illegal", and then watch a guy smoke pot without calling the cops.

    In the same way you can't say: "I think beating people up should be illegal", and then see a guy beating someone up without calling the cops.

  7. I'll concede that you have a good point, that getting directly involved in domestic violence often isn't a good idea.

    But, the point of the article was more that people were more willing to help a white woman in non-slutty attire as opposed to a black woman dressed provocatively. Both needed help equally, but more people were disposed to care about the white woman's safety than the black woman's.
    And, as the comment above mentioned, even if you don't want to get personally involved for fear of your own safety, you could still call the authorities.

    As for Matthew Leone, he tried to do the right thing, and it cost him dearly. Does that mean it wasn't worth it? If he were defending a geeky kid from some bully, and he got hurt, would you be saying he should have known better?
    Let's not forget, the real problem isn't that he tried to save a woman, it's that somebody thought they were entitled to beat someone up to begin with. Nobody should have that right, male or female.